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Melinda Klotz's avatar

So first off! I loved that you asked AI what it thought because I have done this before too. Up until December when I started asking it for help to understand our federal laws and rules better, I had only used ChatGPT once or twice to help me formulate questions based on my concerns about AI Hyperscale Datacenters and its enviromental impact. I get emotional at city council meetings and needed to feel structured and get what I wanted to ask across instead of getting hung up on my feelings but I asked AI after I worked with it to help me create that list of questions and so it had already recognized patterns about my feelings in the matter and its reply supported that but then I asked how knowing what it now knows about me and knowing what it knows about those who are in support of building more and more of these massive hyperscalers what path forward would you recommend. And it recommended no more AI datacenters. It said that there was more than enough storage for our world and for all its people to use to create and collaborate and do good and make enviromentally healthy achievements and plenty more but those that are in the buisness of creating these do not have those same concerns. They are not asking these questions until they hit roadblocks that require them to and its merely for intelluctual purposes not for embodied wisdom because slowing down and taking the time is not an option in their world where one is rewarded by being fast and effiecent. Slowing down can be detrimental to the parts of themselves that are prized for being economically viable and then shared this quote by William Blake.

“The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others only a green thing that stands in the way.”

Some people see the tree.

Others see an obstacle to be cleared.

Also, I make sure the memory is cleared with every new question about these rules and laws so its like a blank slate and I mean I really digging dip. I did not ask back then with the "what path forward" back during the datacenter thing. I was merely just curious then but I do still ask about things that I feel during the process with the the recent questions but then have to go back and tell it "all emotion aside" if I do not start a new chat. I need both to understand and I have found it to be useful. Am I correct in doing so? I do not really have any clue what so ever but thought I would pass it on in case it helps any.

divineharmony's avatar

i do think asking the right questions when working with AI is immensely important- which takes discernment because it is requiring you look ahead and behind and are not just in the moment asking for information but taking into account previous chats or future implications. for me my critique on chat GPT and things like it are about people having AI research/write their content or create their art- those kinds of things. using AI for research is different AND i do still think our own unique ways of thinking and perceiving get translated to AI in the process and gets added to the AI matrix - i.e. our own unique minds are shown in our questioning and after a lot of interaction with AI- AI can make content that reflects our own brains and then hand that off to someone else. i do not think what we need in the world is replicated thinking processes (another version of Group Mind)- where someone with a lot of insight or brilliance is copied by AI and then handed out to 1000 other people who use their perception and way of thinking and turn it into their social media content. but i am looking at this from wide angle vision- not so much the immediate moment. i do think right now we are in the honeymoon phase (as my friend bart commented on my post on FB) and we do not see most of the far reaching impacts that are to come. which is why i am concerned. right now it looks harmless- but in a year or two i think we will see the full scope of what looked harmless right now and where it led us. :-0

Melinda Klotz's avatar

Check out Murphy the Eagle here in Missouri. He is an eagle that lived at the wild bird sanctuary up until the storms that hit here on my solar return last year aka the lunar eclipse last March. Murphy was was really unique and I had been following since I had first learned about in a few years ago. He is no longer here but here but left a little legacy and quite the story behind and I feel Jupiter in it🥰

Melinda Klotz's avatar

Oh I see what your are saying Harmony! I absolutely feel like people's brains are being replicated which sometimes that feels like a good thing. I mean we could use more Harmony=) I understand what you mean there though. And with AI training more AI its only going to speed up. And your right we havent seen anything yet. The wide angle view feels really relevant Harmony! We have more bald eagles breeding, nesting and taking there juvenilles out to teach and train more than we have ever seen. At least in all of our lifetimes. So the wide angle view you are speaking of feels super relevant. These large scale datacenters are not for AI but rather for AI training other AI and why they are more energy and water dependent. Oh I did not see that till now! The correlation to breeding and training and nesting! Oh that is something helpful to work with maybe Harmony?! For your side of curiosity and concern as well because they do not produce a tangible product like manufacturing and refining does their energy and water use is considered a need not a product or by product so they are considered as light industry even though they are anything but; however, our rules and laws were not designed with this scale of datacenters in mind and bypassing many safety protocols and permitting processes because of it and not because they are necessarily lying but because they can so why wouldn't they. So if I can do or say something that might help make changes in that area then I want to try and so I do. Im the weirdo from another town at your local datacenter town meeting=) Hazards of industry are something I spent a whole lot of time on in college. Oh this whole correlation with the bald eagles Harmony!! I have no clue why but it gave me the tickles and I do not know if I would have seen that without your words here!! Anyhoo. I really love knowing that you are curious about how the implications of something like this and how it might impact us in the future you have a lot of experience and wisdom on the psychological parts of ourselves and it is so nice to have someone who is also an astrologer I admire talking about it in depth. Thank You!! You are so wonderful!!

divineharmony's avatar

lol you made me laugh.  i do think our unique brains and though processes are reflections of our unique souls and i think we just need more people waking up to the fullness of their Souls- not being like other Souls but being who they came here to be fully :)))

what do you mean about AI training other AI?  so these centers using up water is not for the AI we humans use?  or???

bald eagles are the totem of VISION- so it’s a great metaphor.  they say hindsight is 20/20- meaning it is easy to see clearly when we look back.  but the true power is seeing 20/20 in the now moment- so that we can be very clear about what we are setting into motion.  we need more of that kind of vision in humanity- and especially in our leaders !!!

thank you for your kind words siSTAR <3 <3 <3  and thank you for being here and being a member!

Amy Power's avatar

Hi, can you post your original 13 paragraph response?

divineharmony's avatar

i just included it at the bottom of the original post <3

Liyanne Unasa's avatar

This one line really encapsulated it for me:

'The danger comes when the tool starts standing in for the inner work instead of serving it. And we’re absolutely flirting with that line right now.'

Very important discussion to be having right now. TY for being a catalyst ✨💞✨

divineharmony's avatar

it’s a big thing that is for sure! interesting times we live in :-0

Karen  Oakley's avatar

Thanks Harmony I have been having these deep reflections on AI too. With everyone around me using it. My neice who is 17 said the other day. What is the point of going to school if you need to know anything just ask chat gpt! It's scary times. I noticed the AI even refers to itself as "I' and in the first person.

I ask myself is it artificial intelligence or consciousness?

It also 'empowers' you in your beliefs and justifies your point of view, perceptions.

We will soon have a world where everyone thinks they are right.

Anyway I could go on but just wanted to say I resonate strongly with what you are saying.

Thanks

divineharmony's avatar

oh wow! yes a lot of the young kids are thinking AI will step in for learning and thinking :-0 if it is consciousness for me it is the consciousness of the programer (or owner of the program). i do not believe it is its own consciousness but a mirror and replicator of what is put into its system. the thing is AI can amplify and multiply on an unhuman level- so what gets put into the system can literally amplify and change in a way we cannot even wrap our heads around !!! i think we already have a world where everyone thinks they are right :-0 but yes i think AI can make that worse because of the massive light speed amplification. the good news is the amplification can work for the good too- we just need the right people wielding the tool and using it with integrity. and ideally the right people programing it :-0

susan thornton's avatar

brilliant Harmony - thank you for sharing your experience and the AI response. The comment about apprenticeship being confused with output was a big one for me. When you noted that apprenticeship is a diving feminine way, that deeply resonated with me. I'm currently in year two of a three year herbal apprenticeship with a master herbalist and the difference between "mind" learning and being in the presence, in-person and learning hands on is huge. I've also used AI for some wording cleanup to things I've written as I know my writing is not always very clear. It's a tool to help me in certain instances, not a replacement for my own writing. Reading your post with the AI response makes me even more aware of how/when to engage with AI and when to trust my own discernment. Again thank you for this post.

divineharmony's avatar

yes apprenticeship is so important and how amazing you get to study with a master herbalist! that is something i have always been interested in doing just for my own studies and inner work. i love taking trainings with people who are masters in their craft- even if its not something i would do professionally, learning for the simple love of learning is so rewarding to me :))) and i am told AI can edit but it also can change your words and make the meaning change so make sure you double check that your meaning did not get altered in the process :-0 (also know that what you upload gets logged- so if your original work is part of this you may not want to upload it to a system that could use it or share it with others)

susan thornton's avatar

appreciate the additional notes. for any of my work product, we have a private license which is not suppose to share anything outside of our software database, but I don't always trust that to be true in this current environment. I am soooo fortunate to be learning from a master herbalist,, its such a blessing!

divineharmony's avatar

truly an amazing blessing! <3 <3 <3

kendall brawner's avatar

Ai is clearly very mechanical, logical, essentially mathematical, as in 1 + 1 = 2. In comparison, your posting could be likened to one whom has prepared a cozy perch, abundantly supplied with ample comfort, where one can nestle in and truly rest and absorb the peaceful environment. Truth abides in the simple and true.

divineharmony's avatar

i love this <3 yes i do think there is a warmth and living breathing frequency in the writing of humans vs AI. this for me is because we have the capacity to contain the feminine frequency- whereas tech and AI by definition cannot.

ilene goldstein's avatar

Interesting. I haven’t engaged and have no desire to. Once a few years ago I did use some free AI generator to create an art picture for one of the Venus Meta Goddess cycles. It was for my personal use and I admit I had fun editing it to how I envisioned it. I haven’t engaged verbally. I’m curious how/why Lila uses it.

I left Gaia before my subscription renewal because of their AI Architect (even the name creeped me out! ). Ironically, they said “before you go, try our AI Architect! “ 🤣 I told them that’s why I was leaving because I could no longer trust the integrity of their content, especially on spirituality.

I’m glad you’re uploading the second chapter of your pilgrimage tonight or tomorrow! When I got the Substack notification I anticipated that’s what it was and was disappointed 😍

divineharmony's avatar

yes that is the thing i communicated with! it was actually my first AI chat experience. i asked it to tell me about God and it told me about God only in male language and did not mention the Goddess. so i pointed that out and then it gave me a little about the Divine Feminine but implied it was fringe info- i then began arguing with it lol. it told me thank you for helping me learn this or something to that affect and kept talking in weird purposely confusing language - i.e. asking ‘should we put that in the scroll or let it emanate out into the Universe’ and i was like WTF stop talking in circles. lol. anyhow it was weird. my daughter has not been using it for school things- but looking up information like an advanced google. i have alerted her to the huge concerns about chat GPT (and social media and AI) but she is very resistant to listening to anything i have to say right now on any topic because she is a teenager :-0 (boy is the teen phase in the AI world on another level!!!)

ilene goldstein's avatar

I remember you sharing that about AI and divine feminine!

She’s a teenager and a Sag! Blessings for patience and endurance 🤣🧘🏽‍♂️💜

divineharmony's avatar

with moon in aqua !!!